To some extent, growing grapes and making wine anywhere is an act of faith: that nature will smile upon you, and so too will the wine-drinking public, which each year has a wider and wider variety of wines to choose from. Perhaps no wine required a bigger leap of faith than the wine of Venissa: vines planted by the Bisol family on the tiny island of Mazzorbo in the Venetian lagoon based on a combination of cultural memory, passion, and a willingness to ignore almost everyone’s advice, and we mean everyone’s.

On this week’s VinePair podcast, Adam interviews Matteo Bisol about his family’s mad and marvelous venture to make an orange wine in the lagoon of Venice, and he and Zach discuss the masochism of Italian winemakers, plus explore and explain what “orange wine” is in the first place.

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