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Joanna and Zach are joined by VinePair managing editor Hannah Staab to discuss the merits and ethics of the “secret” wine list: special bottles that for one reason or another aren’t listed normally, but might be available if you know the right person or ask the right question (or stalk the wine bar on Instagram). Is this a harmless and fun way to reward wine lovers and devotees, or is it yet another way to promote snobbery and elitism within wine?

Zach is drinking: Brandy Old Fashioned at Ishnala Supper Club
Joanna is drinking: Vale of Cashmere at FOLK Brooklyn
Hannah is drinking: Damien Guadagnolo Côtes du Jura Poulsard

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